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May 17, 2004

Oh my poor country.

I pray that this is all a vicious lie. But I can't bring myself to believe that. It just sounds too much like the logical outgrowth of the "kill people and blow things up" idea that our army has been telling itself for a few decades.

It also dovetails too well the rolls of occupied and occupier for me to entertain any serious doubts about its basic veracity. Still, I want to not believe. I crave the idea that perhaps we are not truly acting this way. I know human nature too well to believe this story false...

Posted by Andrew at May 17, 2004 06:40 PM

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Josh Marshall will embrace any lie or distortion if it might help Democrats. He is totally unscrupulous, as I've blogged numerous times.
Try this
Or go here, here, here, or here

The Internet is awash with material that tells a VERY different story. Soldier blogs. Iraqi blogs. News articles in small-town papers...I only blog a small fraction of what I encounter.

Posted by: John Weidner at May 18, 2004 08:23 AM

After reading through your links, I am convinced that you and Mr. Marshal disagree. I also don't know if that makes his correspondent a liar. Ultimately, for your statement to having meaning, the mercenary whose letter Mr. Marshal is posting would need to not actually seen the things he describes. Also... it would not surprise me terribly to learn that the soldiers we have over there think they are doing a wonderful job and everyone loves them-- yet have objective reality be something else entirely. I am sure that the British in India thought the same thing-- until 1950. And hell! They must have though we're better than Hitler...

Posted by: Andrew Cory at May 18, 2004 01:39 PM

You can always get a rise out of me by mentioning Marshall! A loathesome insect.

I didn't say the letter didn't have meaning or was a lie. But it's selected out a vast number of possible pieces of info--part of a democrat+media spin project to undermine our forces for partisan purposes. Mrshall is creating a lie by presenting it in isolation.

Sometimes I think this country has just forgotten how to fight a war.

And we are probably not going to be suprised because we have tools like opinion polls, which consistantly show that most Iraqis want us to leave--but not yet. Which suits us fine.

Just as a historical note, the Brits were not surprised in 1950. The independence movement had been public and growing for decades, and the decision had been made in the 40's. But they were surprised 100 years earlier by the Sepoy Rebellion.

And most Indians did think the Brits were better than Hitler. And especially, better than Tojo, who was right next door in Burma.

(The Indian Independence is a wierd and fascinating story. Millions of Indians died, mostly in the Partition, but all the while Brits could wander about unharmed...)

Posted by: John Weidner at May 19, 2004 08:14 AM